Pinyin Lesson 10 – Compound Finals and Nasal Finals Group 3&4

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Chinese Pinyin Compound Finals and Nasal Finals

ia ie – iao iu – ian iang in ing iong -üe üan ün

In this lesson we will have more Compound Finals and Nasal Finals. They begin with the Simple Final “i” or “ü”. ü, or the Pinyin u with two dots, is very important for two reasons. One is that it probably has the most unique Pinyin sound, and two is that there are some special Pinyin spelling rules involved when writing or typing it. Let’s watch this video lesson and find out.

LESSON INFO


KEYWORDS

  • Chinese Compound Finals and Nasal Finals Group 3:
    • ia ie iao iu
    • ian iang in ing iong
  • Chinese Compound Finals and Nasal Finals Group 4:
    • üe üan ün
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Mykhaylo VovkPremium Student February 26, 2023 at 5:06 pm

that iu took me too long to realize truth. I thought I’m dreaming hearing in the “jiu (9) jiOu”. But I was hearing right. Till the moment I got to this lesson.

urshurakPremium Student March 19, 2022 at 1:51 am

This drill is awesome!!! The way you explain how the sounds are formed is very helpful and I’m much surer in voicing out words. There are still some syllables that baffle me, like ün, that sounds like üin to me. Or those ending with ing, they sound like ieng. That’ll need much practise.

SamuelmPremium Student September 10, 2021 at 1:01 am

Yep I took nine tries on the second test! Went from 0% to 80% and im bloody proud!! I dont even care that it took that long to not fail because i finally got it and thats what matters!

Omid BurginPremium Student August 14, 2021 at 1:26 am

As always, excellent work!
I don’t see how these finals are classified into Group 3 = Compound and Group 4 = Nasal Finals.
Group 3 seems to start all with -i, while Group 4 seems to be starting with -ü.
In the example given, Group 3 and 4 both have compound AND nasal finals.
In the video (at 01:37), Group 3 has these
a) Compound Finals: -ia, -ie, -iao, – iu and these
b) Nasal Finals: -in, -ing, -ian, -iang, -iong
Could you please clarify this, as this was not very clear.

mabellaaPremium Student June 2, 2021 at 7:44 pm

I’m confused about the main vowels as to where should we put the tonal markers. it says in the video that whichever comes first in the simple finals list, that is the main vowel. I’m sorry i still couldn’t get it right. how do I know where’s the main vowel in “ian”, “iang”, “iong”, “ue”, and “uan”? I would always assume that the main vowel is the first vowel.

Please watch 6:26 in this Pinyin video.

kat-rPremium Student March 7, 2021 at 2:31 pm

Wow, this is a whole different ballgame. Up to here, everything seemed straightforwardly phonetic to my German/English ears, but now we have “in” sounding like “ing”, whereas “ing” sounds like “eng”, and “ian” sounding like “ien”….
Generally the vowels are the hard bit for me. I don’t mind the ü, as it’s basically the same as in German (I think?), but the punch-in-the-stomach-sound e still feels weird to me, so it’s nice that it sounds like a “normal” e in the “ie” combination.
This is all extremely fascinating (albeit confusing) to me, thanks for the great videos and quizzes, they’re all really fun and helpful!

RJPremium Student March 30, 2021 at 1:36 pm

Nice to see another beginner puzzling over the same inconsistencies as me.

Mykhaylo VovkPremium Student February 27, 2023 at 11:04 am

I am struggling through lesson 10 and 11. just crazy difficult

I understand that you’re finding lessons 10 and 11 of our Chinese Pinyin Course to be quite challenging. Learning a new language is a process that takes time and practice.
However, to make these lessons more manageable, I recommend breaking them down into smaller parts and mastering each one before moving on to the next.
By breaking the lessons down into smaller parts, you can give yourself time to fully understand and master each pinyin concept before moving on to the next one. This can help you avoid feeling overwhelmed or frustrated, and make your language learning journey more enjoyable and successful.
Remember to be patient with yourself and celebrate your progress. With dedication and persistence, you’ll be able to master these challenging lessons and continue making good progress! Best of luck!

廉约翰Premium Student October 28, 2020 at 4:23 pm

Am I correct that at 3:13, we have the correct pronunciations for the first and last dynasties of imperial China?

ZamirPremium Student June 16, 2020 at 7:27 pm

This one has more content into a single video. thankfully it is easier than the previous one.

muzzaPremium Student June 15, 2020 at 1:06 am

Crashed on this one. I’ll need to revise and revise.

lenglengPremium Student May 20, 2020 at 4:58 pm

For me this was the hardest one and the one I would have appreciate tongue positions the most.

Benji PopePremium Student April 4, 2020 at 9:57 am

And this is where is starts to get harder….

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